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European spring?


European spring?

There has been a long-term trend of disengagement and apathy with respect to the EU so what does the recent emergence of new social movements – the Indignados, Occupy, the Pirate Party, to name a few –represent? Is there a chance that the people could be about to forge a new European demos? A striking line up of panellists in this debate think not, and challenge us to consider what that might involve. Are they right?

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Related topics: Debates, Democracy-Brexit, Economy, Global

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Carol said:

Good video. Its true protests in Europe look nothing like the Arab Spring. They are not even demanding anything new.

Mijanur said:

Whilst the issues discussed, such as the rising unemployment are not as serious as the issues faced in other revolutions such as in the Middle East, I believe that the current situation where continuous austerity is lowering standards of living and in return lowering hopes of the future of the country, this is more than enough for the people to feel as if something drastic has to be done. Occupy is a good example of this, however whilst they have the common goal of rejecting austerity, they are not sure of how to go about it. This is mainly due to the lack of leadership and intention which may reflect the general scenario of no one knowing how to tackle the current issues of the economy or how to pit against the mainstream political parties. Maybe if these types of new and small groups developed a clear set of goals and a strategy to acheive these goals, the public will be suit to follow and hence the political parties take notice.

Alex Watkins said:

It is not just the EU is it, it’s national parties and politicians that have retreated from politics; lurching from one redundant policy to another and running away from us, seemingly oblivious to our needs let alone what could be done about it.

Francis said:

This is different kind of debate, fast and furious; I enjoyed it a lot. It allowed me to really hone in on what I think. I cannot see how we will be able to develop any kind of political or popular movements that is progressive, if we stick to patching up the EU. Even imagining anything different is difficult however, but what should not be afraid of is to put into the mix contrasting ideas and opinions at the very least.

Tracey Bolt said:

I really liked, and laughed, at one of the speakers saying, to look to the EU for shared European values is like wanting a pet that could fly and buying a dog!

Jean Eveleigh said:

Very disappointed with this I was at the debate which lasted an hour and a half – you have not edited in any of the audience points or criticisum – I understand that due to space on the site you would not be able to put up the full debate but you could at least have a link at the end of this edit to the full airing of the entire debate.

Gurtan said:

agree this is not like the Arab spring although there are similar aspects like no real leaders. i was not impressed by recent anti-austerity strikes in Spain and beyond either as they didn’t seem to be saying much other than Ow this hurts be nicer but am not sure what more you can do

Lizzy T said:

Blimey lot of speakers and fast short points-like it. Agree on points about nature of these movements lack of vision and so forth and not demanding much at all plus the pro EU-Euro thing in Greece for example driven by fear of things getting worse rather than great popular vision. But the speakers don’t seem to put forward a positive alternative to what is out there.

Bris said:

Does anyone know more about Golden Dawn as they do sound seriously scary?